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Discussion with Students in JKU

Let's hear it for Ratan Naval Tata, the chairman of Tata Sons. Let's hear it for the chairman of Aditya Birla Group Mr Kumar Mangalam Birla, Let's hear it for Mr Deepak Parekh, the chairman of HDFC Ltd. A huge round of applause for the Managing Director of Bajaj Auto Ltd. Mr Rajeev Bajaj. Let's hear it for Mr Ashok Reddy the Managing Director and co-founder of Team Lease Services. And of course our Mentor, our guide, the honourable Vice Chancellor of the University of Kashmir Prof.Talat Ahmad. Today with us, we have the master Translators of Dreams into realities, the shining stars from the galaxy of business fertility, Indeed fiza, I mean what a wonderful event this is to have such personalities under one roof and wow what an opportunity for our students to interact with people who we used to see in our dreams. Undoubtedly Basil, of course, I think this historical event deserves the loudest of applause (applause).

Now I request Ms Ayesha and Mr Yashid to honour our dignitaries - Mr Rahul Gandhi (applause), Mr Ratan Tata (applause), Mr Kumar Manglam Birla (applause), a huge round of applause for Mr Deepak Parekh (applause), Mr Rajeev Bajaj (applause). Let's hear it loud for Mr Ashok Reddy (applause), Prof.Talat Ahmad (applause).

Now I kindly request our guests to unveil the foundation stones with their auspicious hands (applause). Dear friends a huge round of applause, because this is the inauguration of the IT Block (applause). Let's hear for this also. This is the stone-laying for the foundation of women's hostel (applause) and research scholar hostel at Zakura Campus (applause). Ok, now, since I can a see a lot of energy in the auditorium right now to just show the kind of energy, enthusiasm that we have. A huge round of applause to all of us (applause). Now I would request our honourable Vice Chancellor for making a presentation. Please sir…(applause).

Prof. Talat Ahmad- Good morning to all of you and very warm Assalamu Alaikum. Friends what Rahul ji had promised us last September has come true. And it's a dream come true. We wanted, the students demand was - we should have the corporate houses in Kashmir. In our university, so, they are all here and we should give them a big hand (applauses). These gentlemen do not really need any introduction but just the protocol sake I will briefly mention Mr Ratan Naval Tata, Chairmen Tata Sons. He has been recipient of Padma Bhushan, one of the most distinguished Civil Award in 2000 and Padma Vibhushan in 2008. And we all know he is the Big Business Tycoon who comes from a very respected family. Shri Kumar Mangalam Birla ji is the Chairman of Aditya Birla Group, one of the largest conglomerate corporations in India. The Birla Group has very strong leadership and has their business covering almost 40 countries world over with their business houses and their activities (applause). Mr Birla institutionalised the concept of triple bottom line accountability represented by economic success, environmental responsibilities, and social commitments. Mr Rajeev Bajaj belongs to one of the prominent business families of India - the Bajaj Group. The group's flagship company Bajaj Auto is ranked world's 4th largest two wheeler and three wheeler manufacturing company (applauses). It is well-known and a big brand in the whole world. We have Mr Deepak Parekh who is the Chairman of the HDFC Bank. Deepak Parekh Sahab has won several awards. To mention a few - Businessman of the Year 1996 from Business India, JRD Tata Corporate Leadership Award, All India Management Association award in 2010. He was the 1st international recipient of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and won outstanding awards for his contributions over many years in the financial and accountancy profession. Mr Ashok Reddy is the Managing Director - Indian Institute of Job Training and co-founder of Team Lease Services, India's leading staffing solution company. We sat in one of their big lounges in the country. So, I think I have covered everybody. So, now, I welcome you all here and it's very nice to be here, that you know you have all the students of Kashmir University and our colleges which are affiliated, to come and interact with you all. I will not take long, I just wanted to say few words that from September 26, 2011 the achievements that have been done as promised by Rahul ji, our students have gone from October 31st to 4th November 2011 and had interaction with many of the top ministers and many other academics in Delhi. They learnt a lot and they have lots of things to say. 800 job letters were handed over in the valley under the Udaan and the Himayat Programme which was again an effort that had started when Rahul ji was here last time. A Cafe Coffee Day is being constructed I am sure next time all of you can have coffee in our CCD which is going to be here very soon (applause). A very important announcement for the students. The good news is, in the 12th five year plan we are going to have special package of non-NET fellowship for the students which has been agreed by Shri Kapil Sibal ji, and I have been told especially from them that this is through. I thought I should announce that. And just few days earlier, I am very happy to announce that we have got a special package of 30 crore and that is for our new campus of Zakura. So this is phase one of Zakura where we are going to move some of the departments because of the overcrowding in the university and as I told you I will not take much time, I will give more time to our delegates here - the panelist, our students and teacher to start the interaction. Thank you very much and welcome again.

Abahad Naseer- Assalamu Alaikum, Wa Rehmatullah Wa Bara Kaatuhu. And very good morning to all of you. This is Abahad Naseer, welcoming you all. Building bridges, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have gathered over here to witness and be a part of the panel discussion on the theme Building Bridges Students of Jammu and Kashmir and Economic Opportunity in the country. गरफिरदौसबर्रोयेज़मींअस्तहामीअसतोहमींअसतोहमींअस्त.
Thank you. Jammu and Kashmir the land of mesmerizing valleys, pictures, mountains, beautiful water bodies and yes efficient and able human resources. The students of J&K have proved their mettle at state, national and international level. My dear friends, we all are aware that Kashmir valley is inundated with young energetic and innovative talent. Being an integral part of the country, we would like to contribute to the overall development of the country in every possible manner, if given an opportunity by big personalities like you all (Applause). Kashmir's challenging unemployment scenario has been exacerbated by long and complex conflicts and perturbed instability. The shattered local economy has left many Kashmiris with very few or no options of economic engagement, while unemployment impacts all sections of society. It particularly impacts the youth of Kashmir valley who represent over 71% of the total population of Kashmir valley. Of the large cohort of youth, between the age group of 18 to 30 yrs, an estimated 48%, I repeat estimated 48% are currently unemployed. Eradicating unemployment is one of the toughest challenges and a major problem that must be overcome. We believe that there is hope for better economic future in Kashmir. With this I would now like to request Mr Rahul Gandhi to please take the panel discussion further. Sir, Please (applause).

Rahul Gandhi- I would like to welcome the tycoons of Indian Industry and the young students here. I had come here last year and I had promised you that it will not be an event; it will be a life long journey of understanding. It will be an attempt to understand your perspective, to understand what you have been through to understand your difficulties. Vice Chancellor has read out what we have done, what we have tried to do, but from my perspective it is more important to understand what you are facing, the difficulties you are facing, and to stand with you and to work with you, to improve the situation in Jammu & Kashmir. Last time lot of students said to me that big businesses don't come to Kashmir, and a lot of you who would be here, who had been here last time will recall that I said why don't we speak to some of the leaders, business leaders to understand what are the type of things that they worry about. I had mentioned to you that business at the end of the day looks for business. They are looking for a situation which is stable. So, I am very happy to have them here. They are going to have a freewheeling discussion with you. They're going to be blunt with you, that is necessary. They are going to be honest with you that is also necessary and you should be honest with them. This is a communication and from my perspective it is second communication and I intent to continue having communications with you. I intent to build a relation with you. Finally, lot of people say that Kashmir is a beautiful place today. I was staying in the guest house where I used to stay with my grandmother when she was alive. I was looking outside and said look what a beautiful place. I looked at the Dal lake and I said what a beautiful place this is. And then I realised that actually the real beautiful thing about Kashmir is not the place, but the people. Thank you (applauses)

Abahad Naseer- Thank you Mr Rahul Gandhi. Now we would like to start the most awaited session. Yes, the question answer session. Umraan, please start the session.

Umraan - Assalamu Alaikum, Wa Rehmatullah Wa Bara Kaatuhu. Thank God. Well, wow, it's indeed a moment which you know I feel the souls in ebullient effervescence. Just look at them. I have been a student of management. I was always surrounded by books with the cases of the dignitaries like this. Now, today, I can see them live. It's a moment, historical moment never before in the history of Kashmir we had academics like this. We had academic programmes like this, but never had a galaxy of business leaders of such a high repute. I want to express my sincere thanks to Mr Rahul Gandhi and Prof.Talat Ahmad for this (applause). Well, since for the businessman time is money, therefore we are going to put to good use every moment quite effectively and efficiently. Everything about them is a learning for us – look at the way they sit around, drink water and respond to a situation. This is a big learning for us to understand the corporate way. Now, let me explain some rules. We have two mikes - I will be holding and the other will be moving. We will reach out to every corner of the connotation hall. I know you all are excited but let's do it in a proper way. So can I have a hand for the first question please. Let's start with the lady first.

Question: Respected dignitaries, a very good morning to all of you, My name is Sabrina Siddique from MBA department university of Kashmir. As mentioned in the in the introduction, we the student of J&K state are really talented. Whenever and wherever we got a chance to prove our talent we have done it. We've lot of dedication and enthusiasm but what we lack is the skill opportunity. You know we don't get chance to work with large corporate houses. So, my humble request to you is to take some initiatives for the youth so that they get a chance to work with you. Apart from that, as you know we have got that spark which needs to be ignited. I would like you people to take a bold step to ignite that spark leading to the development of state and our country. I would like you people to answer (applauses).

Kumar Mangalam Birla- Let me say this, coming here bring back flood of memories because I spent all of childhood here. So it's beautiful to be here in Kashmir, and it's beautiful to meeting all of you. I like to just say very quickly that, I worked with a very small NGO in Bombay and incidentally that was started by 5 Kashmiri youth. It's called 'Miracle Couriers' with employees mute and deaf to deliver the job. Just having worked with those 5 boys and girls from Kashmir gives me a sense of commitment, passion and organizational ability that they have. I think that these are qualities, that none of us doubts about Kashmiri youth. If I speak of my own group, we we've grown one and a half time in the four years. I'm sure you have the talent and there is no reason why we would not encourage Kashimiri talent to come and work with us. I think whether it’s talent from Maharashtra, Gujarat or Kashmir, it’s irrelevant. What we are looking for is talent, what we are looking for is people with merit and education. And we would very much welcome Kashmiri youth to come and work with us. Work shoulder to shoulder with other youths from other parts of your country (applause).

Ratan Tata- Like Kumar said, it's great pleasure to be here. The initiative taken by Mr Rahul Gandhi has in fact ignited the fire that you speak of. Let me just say that we can all be here and exchange pleasantries but what I would like to initiate or do is something discrete. When I return back to Bombay, the Tata Group will establish a programme with the University of having internship in a controlled manner. That will give the Kashmiri youth a chance to apply to work side by side with us. What I would like to do is to make a commitment that I will interact with you in putting together an internship programme. And perhaps with some stipend that could become the basis on which we can break the barriers. I think industry has not looked consciously or unconsciously at the intellect and capability that exist in Kashmir. So we need to correct that. I think having been here today, gives us that opportunity. I think we need to rise to that occasion. Mr Gandhi has rightly said, serve the capability of people. It’s a lovely place but we have great intellect in human capital that exists in this state. So, I think I would like to make that offer (applauses).

Deepak Parekh- I am representing the financial sector in India. All aspect of financial sector - a bank, Insurance, asset management, housing finance. We are having a massive programme of growth in the Kashmir in J&K. We are one the largest employers in Kashmir. In our bank, we have about 60 branches. Most of the growth has come in two and a half years, (applause). Similarly, what I am willing to commit is in our entire group we will send our HR people for internship and recruitment to your university every year (applause). I am willing to give that commitment and you know in HDFC bank we have a certification programme across the country. The problem is not of being a Kashmiri or non-Kashmiri. It’s an Indian issue that graduates are unable to get employments because they lack a little bit of training. What you learn in the university is not enough to get a job. You need to have little bit of specialization. So, we have started in Kashmir certification job that the graduates can come and get a certificate in six months on all aspect of banking, especially how a bank runs, how all the systems are put in place etc. With that certification I will also see if we increase number of students we can take. Besides HDFC, other banks especially the ones under Indian Bank Association IBA, this year, are going to hire 100 thousand people across the country. Insurance industry is going to hire 100 thousand people across the country. So why can't we get the IBA and Insurance agencies to come and have a dialogue with the university and see what best can be done. So, ma’am your question about not working for us in Kashmir but working with us and for us in other part of India too, will be taken care of (applause).

Ashok Reddy- We live a motto putting India to work and we don't think we make any distinction between the states, regions or people on the basis of religion. I think the key is to connect the element of the talent pool or the educated youth that we have to the job market that exist across industries and segments. I think we have already started taking baby steps in training J&K youth. Some batches have kicked off. We are trying to address the elements of a training to effectively prepare the student for the jobs in both domestic as well as international market. So, as the job sectors open up in J&K or outside, the willingness to connect and participate will be the key variable. Let’s focus to look forward (applause).

Rajeev Bajaj - Today, I am in Kashmir after almost 30 yrs. I thank you very much for a very warm welcome. Right from the time I left the airport, the first 4 motorcycles I saw were Bajaj Pulsar, Bajaj Pulsar, Bajaj Pulsar, Bajaj Pulsar (applause). I'm glad to see that Pulsar is used by the people Kashmir. I would love to see that more Pulsars are used in Kashmir (applause). So from my side I have a request to you. Since people have already been given offers to either work with Mr Tata or with Mr Parekh, some of you please hold back. We would like to come here to take you with us, too. We also have a sizeable strength in Uttarakhand, Maharashtra, Europe, African destinations, I would like you to see some of the exciting things we do. And I would also like to say what Mr Gandhi said that we must express what we expect of you. I expect only two things of you - have a dream and have an idea to which you can fulfil your dream. If you have a dream and if you have an idea (applause), that would be wonderful. If you know, sometimes let me say this in the end, as businessmen we are supposed to have a vision and sometimes in the process to have a vision perhaps we look very far. We don't look at what is right under our nose, So, I think Mr Gandhi and the Vice Chancellor Mr Talat have shown us what is under our nose, and we will all apply service to this task. Thank you very much (applause).

Umraan- Ok, second question from this side, the other question from that side, any question from this side.

Question: A very good morning to everyone, I am Anam Siraj from the Department of Business and Financial Studies. As my friend said Kashmir has enormous talent, great zeal to learn things, and we not only work with innovation and creativity but we also carry with us various business ethics that we have been taught. We can only work properly when we get the proper education. Since we don't have many private institutions, private professional institutions, where our youth can get those qualifications, internships and training, kindly pay attention to this need as well. Thank you.

Prof.Talat Ahmad- can I just add to what she said? I had a small discussion before we came to this room. I requested all these gentlemen to have a long term partnership with the university. We can have some institution of research, some institution of training, where we can have some of the experts from these business groups who can train our children. That will be a good step, and your suggestion is quite welcome.

Kumar Mangalam Birla – You've raised the point about education. I am also the Vice Chancellors of BITS Pilani in India. I don't know how many of you've heard about BITS Pilani. I think what we can do is to start an exchange programme with student and teachers. For example, we've recently upgraded our curriculum in every subject that you teach here. This is the best and one of the top curriculums across the world. So, this exchange programme can have so many exchange points - exchange of teachers, students can have exchange of semesters, sponsorship in terms of plans of research. I think it takes time to build an university but this is something that can start in next three months and can be done in a very meaningful way. So, that's an offer which I would like to make.

Prof.Talat Ahmad- Can we go for the next question, please? I see that Mr Bajaj has list of things to say. So, we should save sometime for that as well. Please keep that in mind.

Rahul Gandhi- Can I say something? Sorry to interrupt, but if you have a question for any specific person or a more targeted question to Mr Tata or Mr Parekh, so you can refer the question to that person as well.

QuestionAssalamu Alaikum to you all. I am Abdul Waheed Lone. I am from South Campus University of Kashmir. My question is for Mr Tata. Sir, lots of students from information technology, computer science, business and management, electronics and many other subjects are carrying out their projects, internships and dissertations outside the state. Since we don't get any financial assistance from our universities, it gets very difficult for us to afford it. Sir, we welcome you to establish a technical centre or an innovation centre in Kashmir in collaboration with University of Kashmir. Skill development, training for various software programmes can be started at the centre. This centre can also be used as a source of recruitment and training. I hope this humble submission can bridge the gap between academy and industry as we had the topic of discussion building bridges. If we the students are trained well, we can help upliftment of the economy of J&K in particular and contribute to the overall growth and development of India as well. Thank you sir.

Ratan Tata- I would be very happy to initiate something like this with the University. We can support the creation of the innovation centre. This centre will spark new ideas. This is something we can work together. I will make that commitment. Thank you for your suggestion (applause).

Umraan- - Next question from this side, please?

Question: Good morning dignitaries. Welcome to Kashmir. My name is Shahshank Shekhar and I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Srinagar. Sir, I am not a resident of this place, but I've noticed lot of brain-drain from this region. People from Information Technology sector are very talented, they acquire qualification in IT and they go outside to find good jobs. But when they eventually return to their home land, there is nothing for them to do. I would like to make a suggestion to establish a Software Technology Park in the Kashmir valley (applause). Mr Gandhi and Mr Tata, can I have your views, sir? Thank you.

Ratan Tata- I don't think I should make ideal promises. What we should do, is to look at each of the suggestions you've made and convert them into viable projects rather than dead projects. The projects must make sense. It must attract the kind of purpose that it has been conceived for. I think what Mr Gandhi said, it takes full hand to clap and I appreciate his understanding that the industry looks at the talent from corporate perspective. If we are able to train these budding talents, we will go a far way. Thank you again for that suggestion (applause).

Rahul Gandhi - See, I will be little blunt and as I was mentioning to the gentlemen sitting on the stage, business people are after business. They will only go to places where they get business. And in order to get business, you need stability and trust. This is the reason why I have brought them here. I will keep coming here because we need to develop long term relationship of trust. The moment we have established a long term relationship based on trust, you will find things will start moving. I agree with Mr Tata, that idea is not to setup concepts or projects that will fail. The idea is to setup projects that will succeed. I want them to bluntly tell you what they think will work and what will not. It's a journey for all of us and we will have to work together to say that this is working or this is not working. Let's leave this and start with deep discussion. I've come here second time, and I found you as bright as any other student across all the universities. I have visited a huge number of universities. I have been to BITS Pilani and there is no difference between the students here and there. You are missing out on the opportunities because of the environment here. It’s basically the lack of trust. Let us work to build that and you will see the result very soon.

 Umraan- Next question from this side, please?

Question: Hello sir. I am Afshan Naseer from Business school. As per my understanding J&K has attracted an investment of 6 thousand 5 hundred crore in four and a half years, whereas the GDP contribution from J&K is just 1%. So, opportunities are in abundance here. The literacy rate is 68%. That's means human resource and investment opportunities are there. As a business student I believe it's a good market to invest. So if a big business house like HDFC can do well in Kashmir, why don't other corporate houses come forward? We want economic stability in Kashmir. I would like to tell all the business tycoons sitting here that Kashmir is really a profitable market. Please take the initiative to avail the opportunity. Thank you sir.

Kumar Manglam BirlaI would like to share with you that we have couple of investments in this region. We have Ultra-tech Cement is which is used quite intensively. In fact, the new channel has been built and is catering to 80% requirement of cement. We also have mobile service in the state by the name of Idea. Aap logon mein se koi Idea subscriber hai? I hope you are a happy subscriber. So, we are looking at doing different things and now that whole environment is so different, it's much more conducive for us to come forward and make more investment. Jaisa ki Rahul ji, bata rahe the ki you need conducive environment and stability for industry to come in. To ab jo ye stability hum dekh rahe haiy pichhle do saal se wo ek bahut positive sign hai. So, there will be a new beginning now. I think, we will make investment into Kashmir now (applause).

Question:: Warm greeting to everyone present. I am Umar Imtiyaaz from Business school. As a student of Business Management I know there are good opportunities in market. As we have seen that Telecom Industry has seen tremendous growth and finance Industry has also shown significant improvement. Is it really the stability factor or something else that made business houses lose interest in the investment in the valley? Thank you.

Deepak Parekh- - Actually, it is only the stability that has disturbed the investment and growth prospects of this region. The recent situation is quite welcoming. And if it continues, the peaceful environment for business will ensure the economy flourish in the coming years. The biggest disappointment in this region is the credit deposit ratio. You guys being a business students’ will understand it better. In other parts of the country the average is 75, but J&K has the lowest ratio which is 40 only. If you have business opportunities, we can lend to small entrepreneurs to start a new business. But the bulk business will come from outside. And that cannot happen till stability is ensured. We employ roughly 1000 people in J&K and during the difficult days our ATM's were open for you people. Despite such difficult times we ensured the money was put in the ATM. People here, are very nice and do good work in Kashmir. And if stability continues, we can double or triple our business operations (applause).

Ratan Tata- May I add little bit different to what Mr Parekh said? Stability is definitely needed for businesses to grow and businessmen to invest. There are examples of prosperity coming first and driving stability. If you see the United States during 70's. What helped the United States grow its economy is brilliant business ideas supported in the form of start-ups. The business community went to MIT and identified exceptional talents who were passionate about the workable ideas. We can looking at fostering start-up companies and encourage the fresh brains of this region to develop ideas which can become the foundation for tomorrow's economy. Like Intel and Microsoft, we can look at that type of success in the valley and support innovative business ideas. So, might I suggest that, we should encourage university to identify the business ideas in the form of start-ups.

Prof. Talat Ahmad- Ok, I will work on all of the suggestions and be in touch with you all. I will see how the University and State of J&K go with these developments.

Question: Assalamu Alaikum, I am Yasmeen from BBSF. I have two questions. First question is for Mr Parekh that why do the bank hesitate in giving loan to the Kashmiri public? And second question is for Mr Gandhi, that don't you think there should be proper legislation to support J&K?

Deepak Parekh- I totally agree with you. See the tourism is totally underestimated in J&K. There is enormous scope for banks to invest but until peace is restored and stability comes in the state, the financial institutions will hesitate. The business of business houses is business. If the environment is not conducive for returns, hesitation on bank's side is practically natural. If the government focuses on tourism, it will not only bring more money to the state but also help the process of stability go stronger. Banks can focus on putting money into related infrastructure of tourism like hospitality related projects.

Rahul Gandhi- I agree with Mr Parekh that banks lend money to the feasible ideas and if the idea is not feasible or there is no stability, how can banks take their money back? I also agree with Mr Tata that not just the stability but the steps taken for bringing stability also matter. It all works towards improving stability. Last time when I came here, there was misunderstanding that big businesses don't want to come to Kashmiri. It is wrong to say that businesses don't want to come. They want to come and make big money. It’s easier to make money in the environment which is stable and peaceful. I am pretty sure you all and the government also will put the best foot forward to accelerate the pace of stability in the region. As far as legislation is concerned, we'll see what best can be done, and we'll so it for sure.

Ashok Reddy - I just want to add to that. Sometimes it's difficult to legislate everything. Forcing unforceable becomes a problem. So, by creating that legislation you will drive away stability from its natural pace. So, let the environment change naturally.

Question cum observation : I am Imtiyaz-ul-Haque from the department of Economics. As a teacher, there is a wonderful debate that whether stability gives rise to the prosperity or the prosperity gives rise to the stability. I agree with the views of Mr Ratan Tata that its prosperity that gives rise to the stability. Then the question arises what are the sources of prosperity? Of course the employment opportunities by the way of making the investments. But then we come to the basic question how can this way of employment opportunity can be created especially in our own state J&K? I also listened to various questions raised by the students that we have enormous human resource. I am proud to say that we have a substantially wonderful economy and I will mention just a few examples how we can make it a strong economy bringing prosperity to this region. First of all let me say that we've both the resources – natural as well as human in abundance. Unfortunately what is lacking is the right understanding and skilled human resource to utilise them properly. If we want to know what quantity of human resource we have produced to take up the opportunities available in the state, we don't have classified data with us. The university needs to evolve a mechanism to have complete details. Our state is rich with three naturally gifted resources – handicrafts, tourism and power. We need to design new courses that can help develop minds to avail opportunities based on specific knowledge of our natural resources. For example do we have specialized courses - MBA in Handicraft? The answer is a big No. Tourism is a very big opportunity for our human resource to tap it. Besides tourism, the power sector is another important sector with ample of opportunities for our young boys and girls. We have a substantial source that is power generated from water. We have 20 thousand megawatts of energy that could be generated from our water resources. We can easily compare ourselves with the central Asian countries those who are producing the hydro carbon resources. We also have an advantage of saving environment from pollution and make it eco-friendly. We need to focus on our resources to remove this mismatch and bring prosperity to the state of J&K.

Rajeev Bajaj- Well, that was the long question. There can be different perception on the issue whether prosperity comes first or stability comes first but they both can go hand in hand as well. Let me share another thought with you on individualisation. We are individuals, we have lots in common with each other. This is what makes us who we are -,our ambition, our dreams, our weakness. This very individuality applies in the case of Kashmir as well. And this is what makes Kashmir distinctive. Kashmir is not just your state. It is everybody's state. Certain aspects of Kashmir are uncommon and peculiar. That is what makes it special - whether it is handicraft, tourism or a great source of power generation.

Rahul Gandhi - I would like to add in that. Unfortunately we have to close because students have to go for Namaz on Friday. This problem of individuality exists in every single state. Whenever the government makes policy, it makes policies for large number of people. For example our education system is very very focused on engineering, lawyers, doctors etc. Today some youngsters came and saw me doing stuff that is not related to engineering. There is no space for them. I was just discussing with Mr Parekh that our education system is not training them for jobs. It is training people but there is space left where others have to come in. That is what Team Lease essentially does. Fine-tune you to have a great strength. All Indian States have great strength. You are only able to take advantage of these strengths if your voice is heard. If there is conversation, your government is forced to realise that look there is an issue. And that is important. That conversation doesn't break down, We can't solve J&K problems or entire India's problems sitting in this hall. No one in this room is going to believe. Not even I, but what we can do, we can start a process where we can start a conversation. We can say that it is working and that is not working. Let us start doing that. I would like to close by thanking all the business leaders who have come here. They have got many important things to do and they have given us their time. Their experience and their understanding. I would like to thanks all the young students in this room. You all have many interesting and important things to do. So, I appreciate that you came today to listen to these gentlemen. What I want to do is to build a partnership that will last for lifetime. And built the partnership that helps Kashmir, Jammu, Ladakh and the rest of the country work together. To make people's life and future better because I am worried about the future of the youngsters in this room. I want you to have an opportunity to make your future. I want you to succeed and I am ready to help you as much as I can to do that. Thank you very much for coming. All the best.

Prof.Talat Ahmad- Thank you very much of course, because of Juma today, we are not able to continue but I can assure you and I will request all these gentlemen to come back again. Not together but individually and Mr Rajeev is telling that he is coming in December and I am going to call him and make him talk to you much longer. On behalf of all of you, I thank the panel, especially Rahul Ji to take so much of pain and interest for our university and the state. We look forward to having more and more support from them. Thank you very much. 

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